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Obla
Posted 2004-10-22 2:27 AM (#13421)
Subject: Different way of sequencing patterns


Revisit's patterns could be triggered with notes and midi controllers (note for length and key, CC for pattern number) in similar way energy XT works. That would allow to freely move patterns inside of host's arranger. As a result Revisit's internal sequencer would be bypassed. I thought that could be a nice addition.

The global song position sync forces one to work in a linear fashion. That's very limiting. Also, using two vastly different sequencers while creating a song is difficult and confusing.

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chrisnash
Posted 2004-10-22 11:54 AM (#13422 - in reply to #13421)
Subject: Different way of sequencing patterns



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Hi Obla,

I had thought of such a triggering idea myself, but I concluded that the way it would pan out would be even more complicated than the current method. There are two possibilities for triggering: MIDI notes trigger a particular pattern, interrupting that which is already playing; MIDI notes trigger a particular pattern, adding to that which is already playing. Of these, of course, the latter is more desirable, but would quickly lead to a maxing out of the channel polyphony - which would force me to cut reViSiT's 64 channels to a more reasonable 16 or so (allowing up to 4 patterns to be played simultaneously). If this was necessary, it would effectively limit reViSiT's capabilities as used in the conventional sense - i.e. with the order list.

The end decision was that I didn't want reViSiT to become like one of these Magic or eMagic DJ tools, which it ran the risk of becoming with such triggering - all songs would suddenly become based on 4 or 5 drum or bass loop patterns, and the only thing you could do with reViSiT would be Euro pop!

However, there is certainly a possibility of the first of the two options I mentioned - even with the current architecture. If you look at the Instrument List screens (F4), you'll notice that the keymap supports entire rows, rather than just pitch and samples. If a row effect was introduced (somehow extending IT's Cxx?), which caused a jump to a particular pattern, then you could still use MIDI notes to determine your pattern sequence. However, the big problem then is synchronisation - where will the tracker be at 2 minutes and 27 seconds in? With orders being created on the fly coupled with the forthcoming Variable Pattern lengths, this might engender some heavy calculations, which would interrupt playback.

I think, in any case, it'll have to wait until post v1.0, but is something I will look into.

All the best,
Chris


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